BTW, I'm usually happy I had a child, but delivering her was not a happy experience. Meeting her was the joy of my life. Then, eventually, she became a teenager.
Happiness comes and goes.
the old saying "happiness is the best revenge", to me that is the most rubbing statement i can ever hear right now.. .
someone mentioned that jw's dont think anyone can have true happiness outside of their religion, i dont necessarily buy this.. .
when someone is happy inside the borg, they say its jehovah's blessing, when someone is happy outside the borg they say that satan is blessing them.
BTW, I'm usually happy I had a child, but delivering her was not a happy experience. Meeting her was the joy of my life. Then, eventually, she became a teenager.
Happiness comes and goes.
the old saying "happiness is the best revenge", to me that is the most rubbing statement i can ever hear right now.. .
someone mentioned that jw's dont think anyone can have true happiness outside of their religion, i dont necessarily buy this.. .
when someone is happy inside the borg, they say its jehovah's blessing, when someone is happy outside the borg they say that satan is blessing them.
Focusing your energies constructively is far different from "putting on a happy face." You're over simplifying.
A very good point. Focus is extremely important. On the other hand, I remember being in labor shortly before a Cesarian section due to my daughter's imminent breech birth, and the nurses kept telling me to "focus on the red dot" (pasted to the ceiling) to help me with the pain. Okeeodkeee! I screamed,"F*ck the red dot." I was surprised to see how astonished some of those nurses were, as if they'd never heard such a thing. C'mon! That was a delivery nurse? The anaesthesiologist eventually showed up . . .
i've been disfellowshipped for about ten years yet i rack my brain trying to turn that "shunning" stuff around into something more positive and uplifting.
shunning sounds like --- like --- so final.
it's what we were taught to dread our whole lives.. well, for someone who was raised to be co-dependent with the borg, for me to allow myself to get disfellowshipped and leave because i had some independent thinking going on --- maybe --- just maybe my kids don't talk to me any more because my leaving the jws has left them speechless!.
Yes.
Dumbfounded.
Non-plussed.
whenever i have brought up the subject of who will be saved at armageddon with a jw they always, without exception, deny that it is a teaching/ belief of the wt that everyone but them are going to be destroyed.
there's a very good reason for this of course.
how many people can go through life constantly aware that at any moment god is going kill 99.9% of the population?
And still remain sane?
hey guys.
just wondering what you guys believe the holy spirit is, according to you jw beliefs.
more questions may come depending on answers provided.. thank you for your time :).
At first, I thought you'd typed "other demons," Scotty!
I just realized you were asking for the JW tack, anyway.
Mine is an atheist tack. Sorry!
i'm tired of being an apostate, atheist, agnostic, take your pick.
i was going to start calling myself a heretic, but then i decided to look up apostate in the thesaurus.
look at all the lovely words we have to choose from:.
That was Lech Wale(n)sa from Poland.Thank you HH. I wasn't about to spell, or pronounce it. But I did have a clue!! LW. LOL
I'm not sure if I spell it or pronounce it correctly!
H - Glad you like that idea. Certainly beats horrible hortensia! No offense, HL!
What's that about "LW"? Why LOL?
all are welcome to join.
all you have to do is be happy and positive.
you must honestly want to spread your happiness infectiously throughout the world.. you must try to wear a smile most of the time.. you must listen compassionately and give good hugs.. i does not matter if you are not currently feeling happy, but you must promise to summon the feeling from within yourself.
the old saying "happiness is the best revenge", to me that is the most rubbing statement i can ever hear right now.. .
someone mentioned that jw's dont think anyone can have true happiness outside of their religion, i dont necessarily buy this.. .
when someone is happy inside the borg, they say its jehovah's blessing, when someone is happy outside the borg they say that satan is blessing them.
tnangel - I totally agree. Life is challenging. Putting on a happy face if you need therapy and meds and have a sicko family isn't going to be the only way to "be happy."
You gotta' be where you are to get where you're going.
bedtime for the unbalanced one.
nigthy-night
i'm tired of being an apostate, atheist, agnostic, take your pick.
i was going to start calling myself a heretic, but then i decided to look up apostate in the thesaurus.
look at all the lovely words we have to choose from:.
HL- That was Lech Wale(n)sa from Poland.
the old saying "happiness is the best revenge", to me that is the most rubbing statement i can ever hear right now.. .
someone mentioned that jw's dont think anyone can have true happiness outside of their religion, i dont necessarily buy this.. .
when someone is happy inside the borg, they say its jehovah's blessing, when someone is happy outside the borg they say that satan is blessing them.
Hi JG. Excellent thread.
How I'm "painted" by others has nothing to do with who I am, unless I internalize the painting.
Unfortunately for those born-in, the painting often scars.
We have a responsibility to ourselves to find happiness in whatever way we can and to avoid suffering.
I find that very, very challenging to do, as a direct result of being brought up a JW by emotionally disturbed family, but I still haven't given up althoghether.
It's hard.
Kudos for your efforts, and for everyone's, regardless of paradigms.
Edited to say that I shall carry this thought with me as much as possible:
A life dedicated to love and peace has to be better than a life dedicated to revenge and conflict.
Thanks, nvr!